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Their second child, Abraham, was born about 1702/03 probably in that same location. Bremen, a village in the same county, and Frankfort, in Waldo county, were undoubtedly laid out, or settled by Germans, as the names would indicate. .81 days from 25 June. Perhaps you can start there to find, if there was an immigrant to Germany /Pfalz. 1710. This To posess this, in Louisiana, on the banks of the Mississippi, several thousands left Germany in 1715 and 1717, under the leadership of the notorious John Law, who instead of bringing them immediately on their arrival in America, to the promised Eden, on the banks of the Father of the Western Water, landed them on the pontines (transcriber's note: land bridge) of Biloxi near the Mobile. It wasnt true, but theGermans didnt discover that until after arriving in either Rotterdam or London, and then many refused to believe it. The Kau-ta-tn-chunk (Kittatiny or Blue Mountain) extending from the Delaware hundreds of miles westwards, was not an insurmountable barrier - that they crossed and laid out farms where shortly afterwards they, their wives and children, were exposed to the torch, hatchet and scalping knife of the savages, and their midnight assault and slaughter. WebEleven or twelve ships sailed from London in 1710, carrying about 3200 Palatine immigrants to New York. We had a parcel that came over about five years ago, who purchased land about sixty miles west of Philadelphia, and proved quiet and industrious.". HAVING ONE OF THE TARGET SURNAMES DOES NOT GUARANTEE ELIGIBILITY TO JOIN. One of the places I was really looking forward to seeing was the Tower of London so I could, from there, hopefully, see St. Katherines by the Tower. Also, check Gov. There were many Schaffers in this group, according to Henry Z. Jones, Jr., The Palatine Families of New York 1710. 1700 Daniel Thevoz, ege 24, with his wife, a son aged 6, and a daughter aged 8, were among the first arrivals in England, according to the London Lists. I would think you could Google her. Roberta, you may already have this knowledge in your impressive arsenal, but having lived in Switzerland for 10 years, I can say with some confidence that Egli is a Swiss name. Many of these men were assigned so-called Hunter List numbers when they arrived in New York State. At the time these Palatines left England for North Carolina, the Rev. This ancient Fitzgerald castle has been completely restored and is occupied by the O'Driscoll family. In Pennsylvania, the Newlander, tools in the hands of shipowners, merchants and importers, contributed much to induce Germans to leave their homes. They lived some time at German town, and in the vicinity of Philadelphia. Please add your Palatine ancestors to this project. WITH A FOREWORD BY DIXON RYAN FOX. But until your article today, I had no idea that it was the site of the Palatinates in London. June 14th: two folio volumes, clearly written and bound in undressed calf are the statement Towards the end of the 17th century and into the 18th, the Palatine region was repeatedly invaded by French troops, which resulted in continuous military requisitions, widespread devastation and famine. I guess that is the very meaning of redevelopment. Daniel and Abraham were naturalized together on 8 and 9 Sept. 1715 (Kingston Naturalizations) in Kingston, New York. All rights reserved. I receive a small contribution when you click on some of the links to vendors in my articles. Germans massacred, north of the Blue Mountain, within Monroe county, among other were: Guldin, Hoth or Huth, Bomper, Vanaken, Vanflor, Schnell, Hartman, Hage, Brundich, Hellman, Gonderman, Schleich, Muller, Vandelap, Decker, Van Gondie, Brinker. He and his family arrived in England in May 1709 Arriving in England, they were camped on Blackheath. Palatine Charles W. Meiser Law had, through his agents, engaged twelve thousand Germans and Swiss. I like to think that some favor I paid forward just got paid back. His father, in Virginia, was the first minister of the German Reformed Church in America. They wielded the mattock, the axe and the maul, and by the power of brawny arms rooted up the grubs, removed saplings, felled the majestic oaks, laid low the towering hickory; prostrated, where they grew, the walnut, poplar, chestnut - cleaved such as suited the purpose, into rails for fences - persevered untiringly until the forest was changed into arable field. P. One hundred of them were massacred by the Tuskarora Indians, Sept 22, 1707. These are wonderful resources. Large German settlements had sprung up at different points within the present limits of Montgomery and Berks counties. And the remainder http://doriswheeler.org/ui24.htm, Doris, Thank you for the reply. few names added under heading "New York.". Sorry to say this link is dead as of Mar 16, 2021. The numbers of Germans who came hither to were more, than the land already granted them by the Indians. The faster they could make the return voyage, the more profits they could realize. followed by the surname I was looking for. This website requires a paid subscription for full access. Im a direct descendant of Palatine Wilhelm Johann Pulver. When I enter the search word Palatine at FTDNA, nothing is returned. Since you mentioned specifically Johann Peter Schaeffer (born c1640), I thought you would have his DNA Haplogroup. September 1712 to this day. Copyright These two classes, Newlander and speculators, resorted to diverse arts in order to effect their purposes. Under Diebel. St. Katherines is between the Hermitage Park, where Im standing in this photo, and the Tower Bridge. In 1710, three large groups of Palatines sailed from London. Doris. Co. ISBN 9780806302058. Hunter's Katharine Docks and The Dickens Inn on the current map above, in the lower righthand quadrant. . Somewhere I read that today there are about 2 thousand of Johans descendants roaming the planet. Cheers (Being somewhat ostracized by his family for his religious views, Simon had immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1733. we welcome you to use the information provided on this web site by copying I believe that I have a relative among this group. Of the large number that came to England, in 1708 and 1709, seven thousand, after having suffered great privations, returned, half naked and in despondency, to their native country. The letter accompanying the Ration Lists fromt he London compilers will be These are palatines who settled in NY State. WebPalatines (Palatine German: Plzer) are the citizens and princes of the Palatinate states of the Holy Roman Empire, controlled directly by the Holy Roman Emperor. I am descended from their daughter Agnes, who married Johannes Fischbach, also original Germanna Colony settlers. WIKITREE PROTECTS MOST SENSITIVE INFORMATION BUT ONLY TO THE EXTENT STATED IN THE TERMS OF SERVICE AND PRIVACY POLICY. I followed it this way instead of back. East Camps, Columbia Co., N. Y. Hunter himself had returned to London to recoup his fortune. Its possible they too were some of the 1709 group. They moved some miles further up the river where they soon drove well. Its a lovely convoluted puzzle theyve given us to solve. England was bringing large quantities of cargo back from the colonies and to make the process more profitable they needed cargo for the western-bound journey also. 90 km south - west of Frankfurt Authors almost always have left over copies of books.:-). The tide of emigration from the continent of Europe was strong. follow will find reason to be grateful for the thoughtfulness of Mr. Ehle In the most ironic twist of fate, today, this area has once again been redeveloped andis now comprised ofvery high-end, upscale condos, some directly on the Thames and some on the Marina. Since 1606, millions have left their homes, the dearest spots on earth, whither the heart always turns. It sure is fun to research the ancestors and the history surrounding them. This town proved detrimental to Purysburgh, being in the heart of the county and near the capital; it drew people thither, who did not care to go to Purysburgh. (Best for messages specifically directed to those editing this profile. In 1705, a number of German Reformed residing between Wolfenbuttel and Halberstadt, fled to Neuwied, a town of Rhenish Prussia, where they remained some time, and then went to Holland - there embarked, in 1707, for New York. The Palatines in conclusion that neither kindness nor justice was to be expected from the Gentlemen of Albany, and that appeal must be made to a higher power. The first boats packed with refugees began arriving in early May 1709. The pallid survivors - about three hundred, finally seated on the banks of the Mississippi, 1722, some thirty or forty miles above New Orleans. Actual passenger lists have not survived, but the following is a set of reconstructed lists (some of which are very incomplete) posted online by the ProGenealogists Palatine Project circa 2009-2011. He was still there in 1691, when he was a witness to a marriage in that village. BOYD EHLE. History of the Palatine Emigration to America, Some Hints Interactive Map; Research Guidelines; Simmendinger List Governor Hunter's Ration Lists for 1710-1714 German Immigrants to NY 19th Century Emigrants from Central Franconia East and West Camp, New York He was Johann Friedrich Haegar, the son of Johann Henrich Haegar and Anna Catherine Friesenhagen. Id love to know more about these families before their arrival in England. The intent is to determine any interrelationships, foster family reunions, and enhance our understanding and knowledge of our own origins and history. From this area on the Thames near St. Katherines, you can see Tower Bridge, locatedbeside the Tower of London. (No explanation is given when there is one set of numbers regarding the cause, death, flight, etc.). My mother is T167724 and she clearly carries more Schaeffer DNA than I do. Dates given here may not be accurate. In 1719, Jonathan Dickinson remarked; "We are daily expecting ships from London, which bring over Palatines, in number about six or seven thousand. Ive uploaded my dads DNA to Ancestry and havent nailed this one down. While this project was initially focused on Kobel/Coble males, anyone who descends from a Kobel/Cobel line is welcome to join. Here they remained about ten years, when owing to some defect in their titles, they were deprived of both lands and improvements. in Palatine Township, NY, built 1725. Hunters ration lists on the same site. 2 September 1714. Surely no kindlier Join Geni to explore your genealogy and family history in the World's Largest Family Tree. I rather suspect by the time the family left Germany they had long forgotten their Asian origins. Hunter Dickinsons next college could bring him back to his high school days. belong to East Camp. The New York City Reformed Churchbook confirms he was from Switzerland, but spells his name Theroux.. New York 24 December 1711. . They were compiled in England by John Tribekko and George Ruperti, German clergymen. Waldoborough remained in ruins until 1750. Jacob Cobels wife was Anna Marie Egli and they had daughter Maria Barbara after their arrival in the US. While on a trip to Philadelphia with The Chief, Conrad Weiser met Benjamin Franklin. His name was Daniel Thevoz. About 470 died on the journey. From these poor but honorable Germans, have spring says Gayarre, some of the most respectable citizens of Louisiana, and some of the wealthiest sugar planters in the State. This was a big one. The Germans, being unjustly oppressed, became dissatisfied both with their treatment, and with their situation. The founders have connections to German Palatines who settled in Pennsylvania but it is open to anyone. The German Palatines were natives of the Electorate of the Palatinate region of Germany, although a few had come to Germany from Switzerland, the Alsace, and probably other parts of Europe. However Ill talk to Garry Finkell about spreading the work to our members about your work. You might want to enter this as one of the surnames for that project so it will be returned in a search. When the fleet of eleven ships finally reached New York in June, they had been on board for six months. The city walls, a remnant shown below behind the men at the bus stop, would have still been intact when the 1709ers were there, but not much remains today. WebAmong the important lists of names are the following: (1) The Kocherthal records of baptisms, marriages, and deaths, 1708-1719; (2) Palatine heads of families, from Gov. Their descendants forgot the German language, and have adopted the French; but the name of many clearly indicate the blood coursing in their veins; nevertheless more than one name has been so frenchified as to appear of Gallic parentage. ). The pirates stripped the ship of everything valuable, leaving only clothing sufficient for their nakedness. The locality was unpropitious. Daniel and his family appear on the first four London Provisioning Lists. The benevolent Queen Anne formed the design for the protection of her transatlantic frontier, by establishing new settlements, for displaced Lutheran and Protestant families of the German Palatine who were allies in King William's War 1684-97 ( England, Holland & Germany ) "the Grand Alliance" and Queen Anne's War "the Spanish Succession" 1700-13 against Louis XIV King of France ( Roman Catholic Church ). Throughout the summer of 1709, ships unloaded thousands of refugees, and almost immediately their numbers overwhelmed the initial attempts to provide for them. What to do? Religious persecution, political oppression drove thousands to Pennsylvania - to the asylum from the harrassed and depressed sons and daughters of the relics of the Reformation, whither William Penn himself invited the persecuted of every creed and religious opinion. for 84 days from 1 January 1711. p. Prior to 1754, Wendel Braun, and his two sons, and Frederik Waltser, located four miles west of Uniontown. There were some descendants who came back to Vermont and later to MInnesota. History From America's Most Famous Valleys Their job was to tap the pine trees for their pitch, which was to be used as caulking on English ships. Before June 1700, he married Marianne. It is their form of diminutive. Employees Number 405 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Advertisement 5 October last . Warm wishes and many thanks, The firm Hope provided eight ships of which the Winter Galley was one. The Minnesota Vikings have completed the NFL draft process by selecting six players and adding 15 undrafted free agents. p. You can still read St. We missed any possibility ofthe tour I had so been looking forward to. Their first child, Maria Anna Devoe was born about 1700 in the Palatinate on the Rhine. This DNA Project is designed specifically to encourage the testing and analysis of your DNA for genealogical purposes, especially with regard to furthering our knowledge of our Palatine ancestors and family history. I am trying to spread it far and wide. All children over 10 yrs were given the full allowance for an adult and were not distinguished from more mature members of the family. This gives a wonderful historical background to what they endured. Weve continued to move west. I say probably because its a line believed to connect to my line, from a group that went to NC. After the fall of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806, the Palatine nationality came to refer specifically to people of the Rhenish Palatinate, known simply as "the Palatinate".. American Palatines, e.g. If your dad has the surname youre looking for, I recommend that he take a Y-DNA test (FamilyTreeDNA.com). IMPORTANT PRIVACY NOTICE & DISCLAIMER: YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO USE CAUTION WHEN DISTRIBUTING PRIVATE INFORMATION. .86 days from 30 September. Thank You Again! Cowboys agreed to terms with undrafted rookie WR Jalen Moreno-Cropper from Fresno State, person familiar with deal said. Aug. 12th: Hello cousin. They were also expected to act as a buffer between the French and Natives on the northern frontier and the English colonies to the south and east. (N), New York city. There were four Board of Trade lists of the first 6520 Palatines to arrive in 1709. https://web.archive.org/web/20120524084404/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710first.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120524084604/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710second.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120524084449/http://www.progenealogists.com/palproject/ny/1710third.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120524085751/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710fourth.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120525125954/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710fifth.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120525081424/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710sixth.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20111221102440/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710seventh.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20111115154524/http://www.progenealogists.com/palproject/ny/1710eighth.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20111115154958/http://www.progenealogists.com/palproject/ny/1710tenth.htm, https://web.archive.org/web/20120525125949/http://www.progenealogists.com:80/palproject/ny/1710eleventh.htm, Send a private message to the Profile Manager, Province of New York, Immigrants from Holy Roman Empire, Public Comments: Also contact Germantown, Columbia County and Schoharie societies. This has been a wonderful read this morning. Their frail ship was, by reason of adverse winds, carried into the Delaware bay. Ive just forwarded your post to my friend Garry Finkell, president of the New York State chapter of the Palatines To America. She wasnt old. WebPalatine Ships to New York in 1710 These 12 ships left London in December 1709 and carried about 3200 Palatine immigrants to New York. Some perished on ships. They tried to make life as normal as possible. There was no relief of any kind from the government and many people were starving. These did not stead them very long, the hoped-for supply of funds from America was delayed, and the poor unfortunates were imprisoned for debt. In 1732 one hundred and seventy persons were transported. The sides and the top are lined with stone and 18 stone steps lead down the clear cold water. Camden, Me: Picton Press. Dickinson, the Michigan star who entered the transfer portal last month, will visit Villanova on Friday. For now, Ive arranged an interlibrary loan but would love to have the copy since she details so much about the groups migration. Average annual salary was $99,533 and median salary was $99,696. The departure of deputies John Conrad Weiser, William Scheff and Gerhart Walrath had to be by stealth. I would invite and encourage any Kobel (or similar spelling) male to join. Dixon, Nancy Wagoner. 1709ers. Police Department Of Palatine average salary is 112 percent higher than USA average and median salary is 129 percent higher than USA median. Hunter Dickinsons next college could bring him back to his high school days. On my fathers side my grandmothers parents were mostly derived from Palatine immigrants. Bruce Romanchak, Im so glad that Bruce Romanchak made me aware of this article! Similar heading 4 days 1st July to this day. 1744 (Schoharie Lutheran \Churchbook), per Jones. Castle Matrix is the home of Thomas Southwell, the landlord who brought the Palatines to Limerick. From this point, the Germans have spread into Somerset, Bergan and Essex couties. I notice there are only 4 in that project. So American. Palatine DNA Project. Y DNA is always passed from father to son, generally along with the surname. Over the years, their friends and family in Ireland started to follow them to Canada, and soon you had settlements in Ontario full of Irish Palatine names such as Barkman, Dolmage, Embury, Fizzell, Heck, Lawrence, Ruttle, Switzer, Sparling, and Teskey - to name a few. To this end they appointed three of their best men to go to London and lay their grievances before King George. They settled in (I canr remember off the top of my head what the county was called at the time of their migration, so Ill say this:) what was known as Orange County, NC. Ill be writing about Jacob Kobels line soon. Location Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community. Katherine by the Tower.. Ernst Emichen was our immigrant ancestor from Worms, Germany in 1709-10, who settled in NY. Still, Id much prefer to test someone from my own proven line, just in case. WebPalatine Immigrant Index 1985-1995; Palatine Immigrant Index 1996-2017; Palatine Immigrant Index 2018-2021; Resources. to the Queen's most Sacred Majesty . In 1710, Jacob along with his wife and child continued on to America, in fact, settlingeventually ina location that would be named after him, Cobleskill, NY. Thats exactly how I felt when I discovered them as well. Notice there is also a Palatine Y-DNA project at FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/palatine-dna-project/about. 860-388-4657 Email: [email protected] Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. They are indeed welcome. Thank you, too, for remembering me. Cheryl J Smith Hess Smith-159364, Categories: Palatine Migration Project | Reliable Sources for Pre-1700 Profiles, WIKITREE HOME | ABOUT | G2G FORUM | HELP | SEARCH. I have some possible connections but have not been able to prove the bloodline as records are scarce! of the First Palatines to London England 1709, Embarkation After 1716, Germans, a few French and Dutch, began to penetrate the forest or wilderness - some twenty, thirty, forty, others from sixty to seventy miles, west and north from the metropolis. Leave a message for others who see this profile. It was really the key to a doorway filled with fascinating ancestors. WebTranscript of the list of names on the Palatine monument of refugees from the Palatine region of Germany who arrived at the shores of the Hudson River on 6 October 1710. (Then My fathers DNA results are linked to mine and that is how I know it is in fact from his lineage and most likely this line. Their attempts at agriculture were therefore restricted within a very narrow compass, and the settlement of the adjoining country was retarded until the French power and influence in Nova Scotia were subdued. 437-438 of The Palatine Families of New York 1710, pub. The port of Philadelphia showed the impact of the German recruitment. There are no projects for either Egli, Suder or Sonsst. Also, the book are looking for was published not long ago. I had to pinch myself to believe I was really standing here where my ancestors stood. WebJune 14th: 2,600 Palatines, driven from their homes by the ravages of two wars and religious persecution ( the Palatinate is along the Rhine river ), arrived at Nutten Island ( Governors According to the story, the ship stopped at Rotterdam and the people there fed them. He and another German minister, at the request of the Board of Trade, made a census of the Palatines in New York in 1718. The This is likely Jacobs mill creek. Around 11,300 inhabitants, mostly port workers crammed into insanitary slums, lost their homes. return to Home Page return to NYC return to New Jersey . If you have not already done so, be sure to check the seminal work by Henry Z. Jones, Jr. who has written many books and articles. He was successful. It turns out my only Muller ancestor was another Palatine. This was just the beginning of the tidal wave. The Germans were principally farmers. Evidently his father was a German merchant of some sort, being called a Schiffer and a shopkeeper. Doris Wheeler. Perhaps doing business with these 1709ers while they were at St. Katherines by (or near) the stairs was the father of Simon Siron. They sailed from Philadelphia, but their ship was overtaken by pirates. For example, the entry Abelman, Johann Peter 2-I, 2-0. Ancestry has a large database of users for their DNA project but they are behind in the tools they offer to look at matches. I should have it in a few days. 156 The book is then apparently made up 27 August 1714 and certified and sealed Queen Anne received them in England and sent some to Ireland to the estates of sympathetic Protestant landlords. They however, changed their minds and established themselves in the asylum for the oppressed, Pennsylvania. In fact, decades later, many were still trying to obtain their free land to which they were just sure they were entitled. 1231, the other (1230) is the ledger, each name being Compiled and Arranged by Lou D. MacWethy The 1709ers would have fit right in were it not for the fact there were so many of them. In mid-April, 1710, almost a year after the first migrants had arrived in London, a convoy bearing the 3000 Germans and New Yorks Governor Hunter left England. NY Palatine Subsistence Lists of NY Governor Robert Hunter 1710-1712. Article on Palatine ancestors free on Jstor, The families from which the writer is descended have no. The coast, so poor and beggarly at first, and once known as the German coast, has since become the producer and the receptacle of such wealth, so as to be now know by the appropriate name of Coast of Gold. It was quite a surprise to me some years ago when I learnt that my Irish branch was in fact German! Johann Balthazar Loesch and Johann Emerich Bott were both her parental lineage.She did a good job of preserving the history for me and I used it to do a middle school report on my Ancestry. Other Palatine families Im descended from include Feg/Feck, Koch, Helmer, Hilts, and Dornberger. Palatines by The Poor Palatines as they came to be called were some 13,000 Germans whoarrived inEngland between May and November 1709 in response to a false rumor that the Queen was giving free land in America. In Colleton county, on the north bank of North Ediston river, 12 miles from its mouth, stands Wilton, or New London, consisting of 80 houses built by Swiss under the direction of Zuberbhuler, with leave from the Assembly. Life was bad and getting worse for the German families. WebGovernor Hunter convinced the Queen that the Palatine men were needed to help defend the Crown areas claimed by the English and cut down lots of trees to make roads, farmland and develop businesses to support the new settlers. Palatine Records in the United States. Sililar heading. They were initially crowded into St. Katherines, also written as St. Catherines, today known as St. Katherines by the Tower. Their publication is available online: Dr. Marianne S. Wokeck created a detailed list of "German Immigrant Voyages, 1683-1775" to Colonial America. p. There they suffered great misery, in the midst of which, and by force of which, Walrath died. Finally there is a new organization that is bringing together German genealogy groups from around the world. The Governor's record of his payments for the subsistence of the 847 Palatine families 1710-1712 survives today as the so-called Hunter Susistence Lists. These were two brothers, the Eckerleins of Ephrata, who left there and settle in the depths of the wilderness in 1745. been discovered, but by eliminating those of known location the balance must According to a lecture by Dr. George Schweitzer, a highly regarded genealogical researcher, ship owners were very actively recruiting German settlers to the colonies at this time.